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UVM president to seek 6 percent tuition hike



University of Vermont President Daniel Fogel says expenses make a tuition increase necessary.

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By SUSAN ALLEN
TIMES ARGUS STAFF - Published: October 8, 2009

MONTPELIER – University of Vermont President Daniel Fogel said Wednesday he will propose a 6 percent tuition hike at the school for the next academic year, a proposal that would require the approval of the school's board of directors in May 2010.

Meeting with the Times Argus and Rutland Herald Editorial Board, the president said tuition has climbed a similar percentage annually in recent years, an amount he acknowledged might feel like a financial pinch in this economic downturn, but is needed to help the school meet its expenses.

UVM's expenditures total about $570 million, he said, which breaks down to roughly $57,000 per student for the 10,000-student campus. The state's General Fund provides about 8 percent of UVM's budget, low compared to California, which provides 30 percent to its state universities, Fogel said.

At this time, with state lawmakers slashing spending, Fogel said it's been a "blessing" not to rely on state funding to keep the school on track. Still, the challenge of maintaining quality programs remains.

"Even full-pay students are only paying a part of what it costs to cover the full costs of running the institution," Fogel said, referring to the students who receive no financial aid. Tuition and fees for Vermont students are currently $21,378 a year; tuition and fees for out-of-state students are $38,216; books and supplies are an additional $1,050 per year.

Fogel said that financial aid to students has significantly increased — more than 20 percent, to $52 million last year for undergraduates, with another increase expected in the coming year — and one-third of all Vermont students at UVM pay no tuition, thanks to grants.

"More than 70 percent of Vermont (students) have financial aid," Fogel said. "Those with real need pay very little."

Fogel said about 5,300 Vermont students currently attend UVM, up from the low point in 2001 when 4,454 Vermonters were enrolled.

Another point of pride, he said, is the fact that 20.6 percent of the Honors College is composed of students of color, an increase in diversity at the school.

The president noted that U.S. News and World Report magazine recently ranked UVM eighth (tied with University of Denver and University of Southern California) among its "Top Up-and-Coming Schools," and Sierra magazine ranked the school fourth for environmental programs.

"A kid in Illinois is going to see that" and seek out UVM for higher education, he said.

Fogel said Vermont students graduate with an average debt of about $16,000; out-of-state graduates have an average debt of about $20,000. Fogel said the average earnings of UVM graduates is about $25,000 higher than workers who graduate from high school but do not go on to higher education.

Fogel said it's unclear how many UVM graduates remain in Vermont. He said about 60 percent have addresses in the state three years after graduation, but there is no way of knowing whether they actually live at those addresses.

Still, he noted, the university produces 38 percent of the doctors working in the state and a high percentage of engineers, teachers and other professionals.

"This is really critical to the well-being of the state," he said.

Fogel said that, compared with many other colleges and universities around the country, UVM is on fairly firm financial footing. He said he spoke to the chief financial officer at Harvard recently and learned that school has laid off 800 people and plans to let another 800 go. In contrast, Fogel said, UVM has lost 7 full-time equivalent positions (initially laying off 16, but hiring some back).

Fogel said the school has focused in recent years on building enrollment. Now, he said, that goal has been met.

In a letter to faculty and staff, Fogel said, he outlined the new direction for UVM, which is to build "spires" of excellence that attract top students in this competitive higher education environment. He has asked all faculty to propose programs worth investing in, such as bio-engineering and environmental policy.

He said some classes or sections with low enrollment will be dropped, but added, "We will not excise whole programs. I don't see that as driven in a brutal way by a budget meltdown."

The best way to attract top students and faculty, he said, is "to be really, really good." That will mean focusing spending on the best, highest-quality, in-demand programs.

Fogel said the school's commitment to agriculture programs would "intensify." He said UVM will continue to help farmers develop value-added products (the school is working with several ag-related businesses in Hardwick and artisan cheese makers), business plans, succession planning and more.

Asked how long he hoped to remain as president of the school, the 61-year-old Fogel replied, "I would sure like to be here for the rest of my career."

But that, he noted, is a decision that rests with the board.








READER COMMENTS


"School teachers and professors have soaked up more in tax dollars and have the least restrictions, with summers off and never to work a holiday"-ayk
Sorry, I guess this brand of sarcasm is lost on me.
-- Posted by Jim Richards on Sat, Oct 10, 2009, 9:18 pm EST

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LOL- I am not complaining about anyone making too much.
On the contrary
I am tired of this Obama adminis emasculting this country, and all the take overs, and control and telling execs what they can earn.

I was being sarcastic, I just get so tired of people telling others what they can make, and I say leave everyone alone to find and fullfill their own dreams so they can pay for their own things versus this freakin socialistic path we are heading down.
-- Posted by Are you Kidding? on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, 10:06 pm EST

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Jim Richards: Excellent presentation of why it is a good idea to pay forward and stop complaining about costs of an "excellent" education at UVM with excellent professors.My formal education at UVM has not stop paying for itsel fand I am 77 years of age. I have nothing but the greatest respect for the faculty and administrationat UVM
-- Posted by None None on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, 9:55 pm EST

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Are people really complaining about UVM trying to compete with the upper echelon? UVM brings in more money, tourists, publicity, etc than the state could ever hope to buy for the amount it gives UVM.
If you are an in-stater, my advice to you is get good grades, apply for grants and scholarships, and take out loans- who knows you might end up with a job that AYK will complain you are getting paid too much to do.
-- Posted by Jim Richards on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, 9:07 pm EST

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AYK No regrets opn my part
-- Posted by None None on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, 4:19 pm EST

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AYK! Thanks for your clarification. My response is AMEN!
My bottom line was, and I repeat I earned a good no excellent salry as a Professor and brought into the Univesity over 8 0 million $ in grants, taught a full complement of courses and was an NIH training grant director. I had no vcation in over 15 years .I worked over 100-120 hours a week for over 15 years.
-- Posted by None None on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, 4:18 pm EST

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NN-
I dont like any govt officials telling anyone how much money they can make. I am saying if they want to pick off at wall street executives and cap their pay they better add school teachers into it.
As far as i am conserned Congress has no business getting more pay increases as they only work Tues night thru Thursday. They are worse than gangsters, the Mafia had more class than our current White House regime, DemoRat Congress, or Demo-RAT Senators.

School teachers and professors have soaked up more in tax dollars and have the least restrictions, with summers off and never to work a holiday. Theyve sent out a bunch of uneducated kids , low standards. Then they wonder why Bill Gates likes to hire men from other countries with better work ethics and some intelligence.

The white house regime needs to back off and let people make whatever they want, afterall, they seem to have no problems p i s s i n g it away on social programs.
We want our country back, we are not a socialist govt.
Huge tax cuts and let people buy their own insurance, food, houses, rent, fuel.
-- Posted by Are you Kidding? on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, 1:47 pm EST

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AYK ! What in Good gravy are you attempting to communicate. Professiorial faculty are not missionaries. If you want UVM professorial and Academic adminsitration to leave UVM actually put into play what you are proposing. That would be like sinking a ship real fast. Sounds lik ou have finally shown your true colors: Gimme my fair share! I always wondered about you. I graduatedf from UVMin teh late 1950's and my eduation from UVM stood the test of time and I was competetive and earned a very nice level of compensation. I warn you it was a lot more than $44,000.00 per year. About 400 % more. Try it you also might like it!
-- Posted by None None on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, 10:50 am EST

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Well, the higher tuition costs are simply the labor contracts with professors.

If this White House wants to control Wall Street and execs pay, then they ought to cap Taxpayers funded jobs such as public school teachers. And of course if any college accepts any governemnt money, then cap those too. We can all have Universal College Care. If the teachers and professors teach because of their simple love for the job and those cute children, I know none of them are trying to make thousands of dolls off taxpayer backs, I mean, that would simply be wrong, and professors and public school teachers jsut arent that immoral or greedy...... HA lol

Of course, The Govt is possibly getting rid of VSAC so, who knows what more fundamental changes are coming from the White House Regime
-- Posted by Are you Kidding? on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, 10:28 am EST

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If you want /desire a competitve high quality education go to UVM.If that is not of concern to you, then go to either Johnson,Lyndon or Castleton college .Those schools Academics credetntials are state $'s supported institutions. I am sorry to have to tell you this but UVM is a very fine high quality academic institution and you should be proud of the fact that Vt. students can get such a quality education within the small, small state of Vermont. UVM is a comptitve instituion so be prepared to pay for the education. If not go to one of the other State"supported" academic instituions. That is the rest of this story. Pay not to pay is the question! There is no free lunch at UVM.
-- Posted by None None on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, 9:55 am EST

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It doesn't matter who funds this University the point is what it cost a student to go there, and they want to make the cost go higher, and that means one would have to pay more. It is quite simple.
-- Posted by josh hayes on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, 9:24 am EST

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AYK! Good comment! The other responses aka comments are exremely naieve. If they want to pursue that avenue and have Professional educators with advanced degrees work for $44,000.00 per year.I quit. Like I said, I made more than the UVM President did several years ago not the present President Fogel. His level of compensation of over $350,000.00 per year is not for the most part competitive with Presidents salaies of Major Academic Instituions. For example, the Ohio State University and Univ of Michigan President annual compensation is in excess of $ 2 million per year. Guys if you make $44,000.00 per yeara(AYK's figures not mine)more than likely you live in a straw hut or an adobe home in Vermont . YIPES at 25 degrees below zero. Oi-vey
-- Posted by None None on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, 9:02 am EST

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Next will be universal College care. Everyone has free college. Why not. Professors can have their incomes capped at $44,000, thats the livable wage according to the libs,

I would like to see all teachers have their wages capped at $44,000. Teaching profession isnt about making money right? More like for the love of children and teaching, so they shouldnt complain about a cap as well,
-- Posted by Are you Kidding? on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, 8:39 am EST

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Sorry Guys ! Facts is facts and choics are choices. UVM is a State assisted not a State supported academic institution. If you do not want to go to UVM don't: You and I do not run the University the Board of Trustees does. Who do you think participates in the hand picking of the Board? The bottom line for UVM is $;'s! Nothing else. Either learn about how UVM feeds itself or stop bloviating about your new found issues. As far as UVM is concerned you my friends are not of a single mind or concern for UVM administration.
-- Posted by None None on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, 8:36 am EST

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Hey None None your on your own in here. Everyone pretty much is saying the same thing besides you.
-- Posted by josh hayes on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, 7:47 am EST

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None None - If UVM is not a true State college but is State assisted, then let's reduce that to 1% and since you made more than the Governor, you can donate to this quasi-private institution. And how you can compare Ohio State to UVM is like comparing a Toyota to a Rolls Royce! UVM doesn't have a football team and now no baseball. When an employer looks at someone's resume which gives more weight, UVM or Ohio State? The majority would say Ohio State. When UVM accepts funds from the Federal Government that IS taxpayer money! UVM should be closed down for one year and re-organized as a State college. Bye Bye Fogel.
-- Posted by Emile Lacasse on Fri, Oct 9, 2009, 6:11 am EST

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Simple solution...dont go to UVM.

Go to a 2 years school then transfer to a 4 year it's cheaper. UVM is a joke anyways.
-- Posted by derek on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, 10:55 pm EST

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Jeff: Here is the rest of the story: Question,Why does UVM care to use the title of State University of Vermont? Answer, UVM administration negotiates with NIH and other Federal granting institutions indirect overhead. For a State, designated University this means more overhead monies for UVM than if it was a Private academic instituion. If it was a private University the overhead rate paid for federal grants would be different. The indirects paid to the University go into the General fund of theUniversity and are used by the University Adminiostration to run Univrsity adminsitration pet projects and pilot projects.That is a reason to keep UVM under th auspices of a State Assisted Academic instiution. It has little to do with being a Vermont resident. Sorry
-- Posted by None None on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, 7:55 pm EST

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I will attempt one more time to elevate your level of awareness to UVM as a State supported Vermont educational institution. UVM is not a State supported academic instituion it is a State "assisted" academic institution. It is not now nor has it been for several years a State of Vermont supported educatiobnal ibnstituion.Yiou do not derive the title of State Supported when all you contribute to the Ubniversiy is circa 7 % of its budget. Get real Jeff. It makes me no never mind what UVM pays its professorial staff.To be acdemically competitive you recruit professorial staff from the National scene not from inside the State of Vermont. You may liove here from UVM has to compete in recruiting professorial faculty with other schools for professoiral staff. Sorry! I kbnow you do notl kke this but facts is facts. Vermonters refuse to understand either you pay me now or pay me later. Jeff; Get use to the fact thast Professorial staff at UVM are going to be paid more than the Governor of Vermont . I was !
-- Posted by None None on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, 6:28 pm EST

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None None,

I never said UVM wasn't a good institution. I'm just saying it's not very representative of the state it's in.

The salaries on campus are FAR above the average Vermonter's salary. For example, there are at least 75 individuals on campus that make more in base salary than the VT Governor makes ($150,000). There are 300 on campus that make over $100,000 per year - with many, many more hovering around that mark. A simple Google search shows this:

http://www.uvm.edu/~isis/?Page=bpay0.html

All this results in a state university that increasingly caters to out-of-state students that bring in far more $$$ than in-state students. UVM has no choice if it continues on its recent path.

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-- Posted by Jeff Andrews on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, 3:16 pm EST

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Jeff spoken by a true instate Vt.person that knows nothing about the 50 state competiton for the student in the job market. If Vermont wants to compete then compete if not merge with either New Hampshire or New York or secede and join Quebecois. Cozy relationship. NO way ! Be edcuated at UVM a fine academic institution and either leave or stay. If you stay look out poverty here we come. If you leave than you have a shot at being competitve bedcause of the formal UVM education you received . Your choice.
-- Posted by None None on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, 2:19 pm EST

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UVM shouldn't even be looked at as a state school anymore. They continue to price themselves out of that market and have to look for students from outside the state to survive financially.

Academia often prides itself on its altruistic aims. You hear claims that "we're doing it for our youth" or "I could be making a great deal more if I were outside in the real world". Truth is, UVM and other schools are nothing more than another big business that enjoys a cosy, subsidized relationship with government (fed & state).

UVM's salaries FAR exceed those of average Vermonters. Perhaps they should look at tightening their belts or, perhaps, they can enter the "real world" and finally start making those huge salaries they've been "giving up" for all these years.

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-- Posted by Jeff Andrews on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, 1:54 pm EST

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Why the uninformed uncomplemntary comments about the Fiscal budget for UVM? It is an accurate budget and not out of line with many,many other St. Univrsity budgets. For example "The Ohio State University Budget is more than 4.5 billion and the State assisted cotnribution is about 7 % . The President annual compensation is over $2 millon this fiscal year. The football program brings in more than $ 150 million $'s per year. The state's population is more than 20 million people. Vt. real property taxpayer numbers are circa 621,000 taxpayers. UVM is attempting to give its Vt - enrolled students an education that is academically competitive with students graduating from other Academically competitive Universities. why not get your facts right and stop behaving in an unibnfroed manner? Your credibily is not worth a bucket of warm spit.Be supportive of VT's only accredited State Assisted University. Not demeaning of the institution!
-- Posted by None None on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, 11:00 am EST

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I guess he wants a raise. Disgusting!
-- Posted by How do I heart thee on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, 9:19 am EST

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Fogel is just as plain as**ole. First he takes away baseball and now this, whats gonna be next
-- Posted by josh hayes on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, 8:54 am EST

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Less affordable than ever. Good school, if you're rich.

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-- Posted by Olde Man on Thu, Oct 8, 2009, 8:30 am EST

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