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It's 'fine' to refuse health care



President Barack Obama speaks about health care during a town hall meeting at the Northern Virginia Community College in Annandale, Va., Wednesday, July 1, 2009.

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By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR The Associated Press - Published: July 3, 2009

WASHINGTON — Americans who refuse to buy affordable medical coverage could be hit with fines of more than $1,000 under a health care overhaul bill unveiled Thursday by key Senate Democrats looking to fulfill President Barack Obama's top domestic priority.

The Congressional Budget Office estimated the fines will raise around $36 billion over 10 years. Senate aides said the penalties would be modeled on the approach taken by Massachusetts, which now imposes a fine of about $1,000 a year on individuals who refuse to get coverage. Under the federal legislation, families would pay higher penalties than individuals.

In a revamped health care system envisioned by lawmakers, people would be required to carry health insurance just like motorists must get auto coverage now. The government would provide subsidies for the poor and many middle-class families, but those who still refuse to sign up would face penalties.

Called "shared responsibility payments," the fines would be set at least half the cost of basic medical coverage, according to the legislation.

In 2008, employer-provided coverage averaged $12,680 a year for a family plan, and $4,704 for individual coverage, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation's annual survey. Senate aides, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly, said the cost of the federal plan would be lower but declined to provide specifics.

The legislation would exempt certain hardship cases from fines.

The new proposals were released as Congress neared the end of a weeklong July 4 break, with lawmakers expected to quickly take up health care legislation when they return to Washington. With deepening divisions along partisan and ideological lines, the complex legislation faces an uncertain future.

Obama wants a bill this year that would provide coverage to the nearly 50 million Americans who lack it and reduce medical costs.

In a statement, Obama welcomed the legislation, saying it "reflects many of the principles I've laid out, such as reforms that will prohibit insurance companies from refusing coverage for people with pre-existing conditions and the concept of insurance exchanges where individuals can find affordable coverage if they lose their jobs, move or get sick."

The Senate Health Education, Labor and Pensions bill also calls for a government-run insurance option to compete with private plans as well as a $750-per-worker annual fee on larger companies that do not offer coverage to employees.

Sens. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., and Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., said in a letter to colleagues that their revised plan would cost dramatically less than an earlier, incomplete proposal, and help show the way toward coverage for 97 percent of all Americans.

In a conference call with reporters, Dodd said the revised bill had brought "historic reform of health care" closer. He said the bill's public option will bring coverage and benefit decisions driven "not by what generates the biggest profits, but by what works best for American families."

The two senators said the Congressional Budget Office put the cost of the proposal at $611.4 billion over 10 years, down from $1 trillion two weeks ago.

However, the total cost of legislation will rise considerably once provisions are added to subsidize health insurance for the poor through Medicaid. Those additions, needed to ensure coverage for nearly all U.S. residents, are being handled by a separate panel, the Senate Finance Committee. Bipartisan talks on the Finance panel aim to hold the overall price tag to $1 trillion.

The Health Committee could complete its portion of the bill as soon as next week, and the presence of a government health insurance option virtually assures a party-line vote.

In the Senate, the Finance Committee version of the bill is unlikely to include a government-run insurance option. Bipartisan negotiations are centered on a proposal for a nonprofit insurance cooperative as a competitor to private companies.

Three committees are collaborating in the House on legislation expected to come to a vote by the end of July. That measure is certain to include a government-run insurance option.

At their heart, all the bills would require insurance companies to sell coverage to any applicant, without charging higher premiums for pre-existing medical conditions. The poor and some middle-class families would qualify for government subsidies to help with the cost of coverage. The government's costs would be covered by a combination of higher taxes and cuts in projected Medicare and Medicaid spending.








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Heaslth care reform? Energy tax?
Time for politician and big government reform ! Out with every politician currently in, vote in all new blood, civic minded people, not in it for a career, but the purpose of serving the people.
Energy tax??? And where is all this money going? Then how exactly does that stop pollution by the government making money? Especailly since China Russia and Idia willnot has not and never will reform its pollution the same as teh US?
-- Posted by Are you Kidding? on Sat, Jul 4, 2009, 6:14 am EST

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A single payer system is NOT the answer. It eliminates any sort of competition at all. The system currently in use is not perfect, but years of added requirements that it be available to everyone, regardless of health risk (self inflicted or otherwise) has made it , in part, an unwieldy monster. Couple that with unchecked corporate greed and wildly varying health care costs...and you have trouble right here in River City!
Insurance is meant to be a gamble for both parties. The bet you won't get sick, and you bet you won't either, but you'll be covered if you do. I can't see why health insurance can't operate the same as homeowners or automobile....if you cause a claim, like arson or an accident, you may get denied. Only health insurance is a win-win claim...90% of the time..
-- Posted by CJ maloney on Sat, Jul 4, 2009, 6:14 am EST

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I hope we are not talking about private insurance such as coops. BCBS of Vermont in the spring paid its departing CEO 8 million dollars in cash. It is said YOU (BSBS) paid all his taxes on the loot.

This is why only a single payer system will work and contain costs.
-- Posted by Joshua Bernstein on Fri, Jul 3, 2009, 11:57 am EST

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I agree in principle with Mr.Messier, health care in it's entirety should have a fixed price for all. Recently, my insurer paid my bill at a reduced rate, one that they negotiated with the local hospital. It was paid in full, mind you, but it brought to mind one question. How much does a service REALLY cost. How can you bill for a service but happily accept a reduced payment? Does it or doesn't it cost that much? It is a system that makes liars out of all involved.
Further, some liability for health care bills should be laid squarely at the feet of the individual. When one person can afford to buy cigarettes and a hugely inflated price and then claim to be too "poor" to afford health care premiums, well, that's just pure and utter BS. Has the concept of personal responsibility completely escaped the American mind? Or is it just too easy to make the next guy pay for our own lack of planning or interest in your personal health and finances?
-- Posted by CJ maloney on Fri, Jul 3, 2009, 10:26 am EST

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Wow, we went from Socialised medicine to Dictatorial medicine. This will be the first time I can recall ( And I may be wrong ) that "we the people" will be fined by the federal government, for not performing an action. In this case carrying health insurance.

Insurance is a gamble. If I don't use it why should I be fined? I didn't do anything wrong. President Obama has gone from being a socialist to a dictator. The longer he stays in office the more our constitution is in jepordy! Hopefully, he will only have one term.

Douglas Duprey
Marshfield, VT
-- Posted by Douglas Duprey on Fri, Jul 3, 2009, 9:57 am EST

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My how forward thinking, fine people for not being able to afford health insurance. Has the Vermont Legislature been morphed into mindless Federales? What's next? The new Federal tax form only two lines.... "How much did you earn last year? Mail it in." Do we have any reasonable, intelligent individuals in any level of political office any more ? It is time to take the country back. The only ones who can afford to run for office are the wealthy, who are so insulated from trying to scrape by week to week, that they just don't understand "WE DON'T ALL HAVE TRUST FUNDS." My share of my health insurance is about $5000.00 a year. That will almost double when I have to go it alone. I would think the first priority of Congress would be to fix the debacle that is the health care system, regulate it so that it is affordable, and THEN worry about individuals who cannot afford insurance. But then their PAC's and other perks would dry up because they bucked the system. Ever wonder why Politicans say they're not rich when they enter office and say nothing when they retire? Because they help loot the system. It's time to overhaul government at all levels, get them out of our business, our bedrooms, AND our pockets. No more WE pay as they go.
-- Posted by Louis Messier on Fri, Jul 3, 2009, 7:57 am EST

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