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Anne Valliere of Barre joins the 'party in Montpelier Wednesday.

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By DANIEL BARLOW Vermont Press Bureau - Published: April 16, 2009

MONTPELIER – Vermonters fed up with the financial policies of the state and federal government gathered outside the Statehouse Wednesday for an updated version of the Boston Tea Party of 1773.

A crowd of more than 500 people waved signs decrying President Obama's policies as socialism and urging Gov. James Douglas to reject stimulus funding and cut the state budget to match declining revenues.

"A lot of us are just average citizens watching the government spend money like it is going out of style," said TJ Michaels, a talk show host at Barre's WSNO 1450AM, who helped organize the event. "But today we are Vermonters who are fed up; today we are Americans who are fed up."

Protesters gathered up hundreds of tea bags they planned to send to Vermont's congressional delegation – another symbol that harkens back to that key event in the start of the American Revolution.

Joeie Clark of Fairfax collected tea bags with the names and Zip codes of protesteors in large boxes. She said she faxed an image of a tea bag to the White House and Vermont's senators and congressman earlier this month – but never received a response from them.

"Our goal is to get 1,000 tea bags for each member of our delegation in Washington," she said. "It's a statement that we demand a return to fiscal responsibility and we're sick of being taxed."

More than 700 similar protests occurred across the country on Wednesday, the same day federal and state tax filings were due. The events were organized by a coalition of conservative organizations, but the crowd outside of the Statehouse displayed a wide spectrum of opinions of current events.

While Ron Paul supporters discussed less military intervention overseas, a speaker was declaring that the United States is "at war with Islam." Another speaker urged Douglas to put the federal stimulus money directly into the economy as protesters shouted, "Send it back" to Washington.

These protests cut across political and party lines, according to Jessica Brenier, a stay-at-home mother from Barre who organized the Montpelier event. Brenier said she wasn't politically active until discovering the presidential campaign of Paul, a Texas Republican with a libertarian streak, last year.

"When Ron Paul speaks, it has substance," she said. "He's not just saying things to make people feel better."

She since got involved with her county Republican Party and admits that Paul's foreign policy is in conflict with the foreign policy of the mainstream Republican Party during the last eight years.

But she said protesters in Montpelier Wednesday were bonded over their concern that the country's fiscal policies will cause the nation to collapse.

"A lot of us have woken up," Brenier said. "And once you are awake, it's hard to go back to sleep."

Rob Roper, the chairman of the Vermont Republican Party, videotaped part of the protest. He said the event was not officially endorsed by the party, but said he helped generate buzz for it via the organization's Web site.

"I think you're seeing a lot of people rise up to express their frustration," Roper said. "They're frustrated with the government and they're frustrated with the Legislature because they're not capable of living within their means."

Frustration over government economic policies did not begin with the new Obama administration, according to Linus Leavens of South Burlington. He said he has been worried about how government uses his tax dollars since the passage of Act 60, Vermont's former school funding law.

He said he wants to see the abolishment of the U.S. Federal Reserve and for the country to begin pulling back from international monetary and military agreements.

"It's insane to keep printing money as the value of our dollar drops," Leavens said.

Earlier that morning, a handful of Vermonters had a different Tax Day message: We'll pay more to save essential state services.

Members of the Save Our State coalition met at the Vermont Department of Taxes office in Montpelier two hours before the start of the Tea Party Protest as they urged residents to pay a few dollars more to stop cuts to state workers.

Douglas and lawmakers have butted heads over the last several weeks over plans to balance the 2010 state budget and the planned layoffs of more than 300 state employees that are expected to begin this week.

Christopher Curtis, an attorney with Vermont Legal Aid, said that if every Vermonter of modest income promised to pay one or two dollars more a month, no state jobs would need to be cut and all the services could be retained.

"We think Vermonters are willing to pitch in to save essential government services," he said.

Peter Sterling, the executive director of the Vermont Campaign for Health Care Security, said Douglas' budget plan includes raising premiums and co-pays for programs such as Catamount Health – which would hurt residents already struggling.

"This is not the time to throw people off health care when they are losing their jobs," he said. "That's kicking them twice."

Contact Daniel Barlow at Daniel.Barlow@timesargus.com.








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"The fact of the matter both parties are to blame for this. In Bushs 8 years he grew the national deficit by 3 times!!! Obama is doubling what Bush did in one year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Well, Mike, as with the Depression, it's gonna take a lot of money to clean up after Bush. Then again, that's bound to happen when you let incompetent trash steal elections. Let that be a lesson to you loons.

Spending money does not get you out of a depression. That was proven when FDR was president(There are many other examples such as the Japenese in the 1990's). All his pork spending just made the problem worse. The depression lasted for 20 years (1930-1950)!!!!! What got us out of the depression was a 2/3 cut in government spending and 1/3 cut in taxes in 1946. Go back and do some real research, as you obviously don't know what you are taking about!.

"No matter what our tax situation is now, our future is being mortgaged for the here and now. Our standard of living is going to decrease at an alarming rate in the coming years (It has now for 30 years: Remember the time when one parent had to work and you could still afford a house, car and quality life, now 2 parents have to work multiple jobs in many cases to keep the same standard of living).

Did ya sleep well, Rip? Such is the legacy of reagonomics and exploding gop deficits.

I totally agree with you. Reagonomics was part of this mess we are in now. Richard Nixon taking us off the Gold Standard also helped. The government (Actually the FEDERAL RESERVE which is privately owned) now had a free pass to print how much money(I OWE YOU"S) they wanted. With the Fractional-Reserve banking you have to have a currency backed up with gold or silver!! The Federal Reserve is stealing America's wealth and people don't even realize it.

In 2010, the baby-boom generation will be at retirement age and we will have more retired people supported by government then ever before. There will many more Tea-Parties in the coming years and many of you who disagree will soon be going the movement."

We will, eh? Feel free to give my seat to a friend, little factually-challenged fella.

I'm more then willing to save a seat for you. It's gonna be a wild ride the next 15 years. My best guess is we are headed to a world government. Over the last 30 years American rights have been slowly taken away, our wealth is disappearing, and we have become an Economic Fascist state.

"This Tea-Party Movement didn't just start up yesterday. It's been building up for 1 1/2 years. December 16. 2007 Ron Paul supporters had the 1st Tea party in Austin, TX. This is a Libertarian movement that had a small republican following. Of course, the mainstream republicans are jumping on the bandwagon now and claiming credit. LOL!! Unfortunately for them we know there are just as responsible as the democrats for this mess!!!!!!!"

Actually, they're more responsible.

Again, I hate to confuse ya with the facts, little fella, but not only was Barack Obama not President 18 months ago, but the Dems had only recently regained control of the Congress and Bush, like doogie, was vetoing everything in sight after not vetoing a damned thing for the first six years of his reign of error when he had a cluelessly-corrupt, gop rubber-stamp Congress.

Washington is run by corrupted politicians (Democrats and Republicans) who are all after pork for there states so they can get re-elected. They are bought and paid for by corporations and are just doing the bidding of the Economic Facist (bankers and corporations) who run this country. Obama is know different he is bought and paid for!!!!!!! Sorry to Burst your Bubble!!

Besides, what party controls the State House and the Governor's Mansion in Texas? Who was the incompetent schmuck that was governor before Perry?

Ya got bupkis, Mike. You dittoheads always do.

I am most certainly not a ditto head!!!!! I am for "Common Sense" and there certainly isn't much of that in Washington these days.I believe the only way to get out of our current mess is for the American people to stand and vote for a REAL PRESIDENT and CONGRESS, not PUPPETS!! The last truly real president we had in this country was JFK!!!!!!!!! 50 years ago!!!!!! I personally believe this will never happen and are headed for some rough years in this Country.
-- Posted by Michael Enright on Mon, Apr 20, 2009, 2:28 am EST

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Gee, thanks for that factually-challenged, fundamentally-dishonest, ignorant-trash perspective, little china girl.

So, what you're sayin' is ya still got no case, no clue, no reason, ya don't know which end is up and ya can't tell your sorry butt from third base.

Thanks for clearin' that up.
-- Posted by None None on Sun, Apr 19, 2009, 7:43 am EST

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None None does indeed sum you up you factose ignorant zero. Keep on bein yourself dumba$$ you ARE the reason you are where you're at;
Stupid, mouthy, ignorant, are you thinkin maybe this venue is your 15 minutes of fame? What a loser........
said it before, just gotta say it again,
cause you're soooooooooooooooo da*m easy
None None = Zero
You really shouldn't come back here........
till you understand more than the drivel you put out..
You live in a small uniformed world don't you little Zero
I'm guessin' it's your mind!
Good luck livin ignorant Zero
Should really stay away from intelligent conversations Zero you stick out like a sore thumb in them.
Well maybe not where would I get my entertainment then, eh?
HA! I laugh at you...........sorry.........just do
-- Posted by Say NO to China on Sat, Apr 18, 2009, 8:17 pm EST

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"..Have you all begun to see the pattern evolving here?.."

Yeah, you're caseless, clueless and ya don't know which end is up or what the hell you're talking about. That's not exactly news, little factose-intolerant fella.


"I have said it before I'll say it again WAKE UP! GET INVOLVED."

Yeah, you've never been one to let the facts slow ya down or get in the way of a good rant, little fella.

"The ONLY solution to the problem we face is to let those companies that got us here FAIL! It IS the only way! I do not want to own a bank or a car manufacturer, I don't want to bail out the person who bought a $750K with a no-doc loan."

Nice straw man, little fella.

Nobody wants chemo or radiation, either, but when faced with cancer and certain, premature, unnecessary death, suddenly they don't seem so bad.

"This is a global problem we face and by the US printing money like a drunken sailor the next thing to follow will be inflation and further failing of the value of the American dollar. Want to read something interesting? Google China's desire to replace the US$ with the yuan as the new global currency standard. Russia's all for it! I'll bet nearly bankrupt Hungary is on board as well. WAKE UP PEOPLE! Someday real soon you make wake up speaking Chinese!"

Boy, that's some psychotic swamp you've been swimmin' in, little fella.

Did ya have a nice nap, Rip?

I hate to keep confusin' ya with the facts, little fella, but you're six or seven years behind the times. Ya been outta town?

Bush and the gops already sold us out to the Chinese. Who do you think paid for Iraq when Bush cut his friend's taxes and told everyone to go shopping in time of war.

How often has that been done in the course of American History, sport? How'd that turn out again?

China is not going to change US currency. It wouldn't be fiscally prudent. They own too many of our T-Bills to do that. They're not suicidally stupid.

Loan sharks don't kill people. Dead people don't pay their debts.

Thanks to Bush and the gops, China's our loan shark.
-- Posted by None None on Sat, Apr 18, 2009, 6:41 pm EST

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WOW!
There's a lot of psychobabblistic BS is going on here!
Some glimmers of hope; but mostly psycho-BS.
The economic problem we face today is not the Bushes fault though those administrations added immensely to the problem. The problem is not the Dems or Repubs fault though they offer no viable solutions to the problem. The problem is not with Reganomics though it added to the problem. The problem is not Greenspans fault though he added to the problem. The problem is not NAFTA though it added greatly to the problem. THe problem is not Walmarts' fault but they have and continue to greatly add to the problem. The problem is not illegal immigration though it has greatly added to the problem and will continue to do so left unchecked. Have you all begun to see the pattern evolving here? I have said it before I'll say it again WAKE UP! GET INVOLVED. Tea party protesters.....GOOD JOB!
Carry it to the next level. Don't stop, gather momentum, rock on! We need MORE of your type, you know who I mean, those that are willing to take the first step. Your government is not there to help you, your governments' goal is to make you dependent on them. And when you are they will have total control over you.Bill Bruckner are you out there still listening? I was and am.
The ONLY solution to the problem we face is to let those companies that got us here FAIL! It IS the only way! I do not want to own a bank or a car manufacturer, I don't want to bail out the person who bought a $750K with a no-doc loan.
This is a global problem we face and by the US printing money like a drunken sailor the next thing to follow will be inflation and further failing of the value of the American dollar. Want to read something interesting? Google China's desire to replace the US$ with the yuan as the new global currency standard. Russia's all for it! I'll bet nearly bankrupt Hungary is on board as well. WAKE UP PEOPLE! Someday real soon you make wake up speaking Chinese!
-- Posted by Say NO to China on Sat, Apr 18, 2009, 4:40 pm EST

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I'm willing to pay taxes as long as I feel there's some accountability and efficient use of the tax money. If we localized more taxes and spending (ex. education, bridges, roads and other infrastructure, etc) I'd be very happy. At least then, we have a better handle on expenditures. Currently, so much is funneled inefficiently through DC that people have lost faith in the system.

Think about it. We can't fix a bridge, fix a school or do any basic task that we used to do locally without having to beg for money from Washington (and face the mafia-type "conditions" that come with it).

Personally, I'm just tired of having to look at Bernie, Saint Patrick or Petey Welch's stupid grins as they hold giant checks from Washington when we want to do something as simple as adding an extension to a local library.

Face it - the political parties don't really matter. It's the system that's broke.
-- Posted by Jeff Andrews on Sat, Apr 18, 2009, 2:27 pm EST

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And you will also be willing to pave and fix potholes on all the roads you drive on, police your own community, put out your own fire if your house catches,plow all the roads you drive on, teach school to your own children, repair collapsing bridges, mow all of the grass along the interstate and state roads, etc....
...........................................If the gas tax, DMV fees and fines etc were used FOR the potholes and plows, taht would be fine. There arent taht many local police, VSp doesn the most, and there arent htat many now, so cant be any worse,,,we have 90% volunteer fire depts anyway, works well here and all over the country as it is,,,i dont want my kid taught in these liberal public schools,,no way, they spend 60 percent of their time on social issues and diversity Bulls__- thats up to the parents to teach social ideaolgy, if this state spent more time on basic math and english skills maybe they'd be educated and get decent jobs, and when the ones do, they find the jobs out of state and never come back.... I like to see tall grass along roadwdays and the wildflowers,,,hey its summertime, looks better than snowbanks, what a waste of money to mow the roads to nowhere. And bridges, this state never fixes anythign with the money it already has because they **** it away on everything else and wait for federal money,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and then the big money pit...they sued Philip Morris for all kinds of money for cigarette smoking costs,,DID THEY ACTUALLY use it to pay doctors or supply the medicad budget??? NO, they put millions into general fund again,,to **** away on their little liberal social programs. The governemtn lied. THey used tobacco smokers to coerce more money out of a company. Didnt help smokers any
-- Posted by Are you Kidding? on Sat, Apr 18, 2009, 12:44 pm EST

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Are You Kidding,
And you will also be willing to pave and fix potholes on all the roads you drive on, police your own community, put out your own fire if your house catches,plow all the roads you drive on, teach school to your own children, repair collapsing bridges, mow all of the grass along the interstate and state roads, etc....
I think that by the time you spent money and time doing all of this, you would not be able to buy your own food, pay your own insurance, save for your retirement, etc.... You would be out of money and time providing all of the services I mentioned above.
Do you realize all of the services you get for the tax money you pay? Do you really think it would be cheaper to do all of it for yourself? Really think about it. Everything I mentioned above is something the state or towns provide for you from your tax money. You would not have time to work or raise a family if you had to do all of that on your own.
-- Posted by Andi Rosin on Sat, Apr 18, 2009, 9:38 am EST

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The British are laughing because the USA is headed where they have already been.. They are laughing becuase teh Obammy Klan is spending other peoples money too, and that will run out.
British are laughing because they ARE BROKE !! hahahahhaa thats all they have left is their sense of humor,,,certainly not any more money
-- Posted by Are you Kidding? on Sat, Apr 18, 2009, 8:31 am EST

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Owlcat....Why didnt you wonder which gays were being paid to protest?? and if their employers were payign them to hangout at the state house?? more double standards
-- Posted by Are you Kidding? on Sat, Apr 18, 2009, 7:37 am EST

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There seems to be a plit on who wants more taxes and who wants less. i say, all those in favor of higher taxes,,go ahead and pay extra, do the Patriotic thing and pay extra if you think its such a great idea. And all those in favor of lower taxes, well we will just keep our paychecks, and craete more jobs andinvest and haveour own money so we wont have to suck off your social programs. We want lower taxes adn we will be self-supportive, buy our own food, pay our own insurance, and invest in our retirement and buy what we want when we want,. This is America right??
-- Posted by Are you Kidding? on Sat, Apr 18, 2009, 7:35 am EST

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what are they crying for, they arent being taxed to mill around with signs looking like the idiots they are? Hello? Are you paying any taxes there holding signs? is your employer paying you to be there? Doesn't appear so... lol. tea-parties & no taxes. repubs look smarter every every day. Why isn't your leader, Rush, leading the way on this issue? Wow. it's so impressive . the british love it. they are laughing they're arses off at all of you.
-- Posted by owlcat on Sat, Apr 18, 2009, 7:29 am EST

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leftist rag? what's the right-wing version, this is vermont there "dittohead".
-- Posted by owlcat on Sat, Apr 18, 2009, 7:04 am EST

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If any of you personally has debt....Do you just go writing and borrowing money to create more debt????
Why on earth cant you see if President Bush had country into debt( but very safe from terrorists) ,,,why wouldnt Obammy make spending cuts instead of spending more?? It goes against all logic, you dont spend triple the amount of debt, if youre already in debt. Hypocrasy. It just depends on whos doing the spending,
-- Posted by Are you Kidding? on Sat, Apr 18, 2009, 6:45 am EST

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Watercloset....good post and and 100% accurate...glad to see someone is an "A" American history student because, WHEW....there isn't many here...Damn!
-- Posted by CJ maloney on Sat, Apr 18, 2009, 6:23 am EST

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"he British killed millions upon millions of people, tortured thousands upon thousands, and left many of those mutilated for life... The colonials at the time, sick of being treated this way, and wanting a representational government, decided that a peaceful but powerful demonstration of their anger and frustration was warranted."

What the hell are you talking about? When did the British kill millions and millions of people? Were they American colonials? Did they torture thousands upon thousands of colonists in America? What? Where did your history come from? Rush Limbaugh? The British had just fought a major world war on behalf of the colonists, had expended much life blood, and bankrupted their treasury to fight a major war for the colonials in North America, to kick the French out of Canada, a war that lasted eight years and ended on the Plains of Abraham. Thousands upon Thousands of British soldiers had been killed or maimed.

The British parliament imposed the taxes on the colonists to recoup some of this expenditure. The colonists had representatives in Parliament, among them one Benjamin Franklin, who pleaded with the Prime Minister, a Lord North, to repeal the tea tax. This tea tax was not so much a tax against the colonists but a tax against other tea importers/exporters, especially in America, in order to enforce a monoply by the East India Company -- something that today's GOP, including Do-less, is fond of doing to create nice monopolies of their own -- oil, health care, insurance, you name it.

These tea parties are a joke since they seek to do the same thing. They are the people that want me to pay their taxes for them while they happily use what I pay for and get angry at me for not paying it for them, just like Bush has been doing for the last eight years, then his daddy and Reagan before him.

I do agree with the tea folks on the bail-outs, bail-outs that began under the Bushies, to try to save the ships that they helped sink before they went too far under the waves to mar their legacy. Obama is stuck with a near impossible mess, a mess that is the right-wing handiwork.
-- Posted by Watercloset on Sat, Apr 18, 2009, 12:43 am EST

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"The fact of the matter both parties are to blame for this. In Bushs 8 years he grew the national deficit by 3 times!!! Obama is doubling what Bush did in one year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Well, Mike, as with the Depression, it's gonna take a lot of money to clean up after Bush. Then again, that's bound to happen when you let incompetent trash steal elections. Let that be a lesson to you loons.

"No matter what our tax situation is now, our future is being mortgaged for the here and now. Our standard of living is going to decrease at an alarming rate in the coming years (It has now for 30 years: Remember the time when one parent had to work and you could still afford a house, car and quality life, now 2 parents have to work multiple jobs in many cases to keep the same standard of living).

Did ya sleep well, Rip? Such is the legacy of reagonomics and exploding gop deficits.

In 2010, the baby-boom generation will be at retirement age and we will have more retired people supported by government then ever before. There will many more Tea-Parties in the coming years and many of you who disagree will soon be going the movement."

We will, eh? Feel free to give my seat to a friend, little factually-challenged fella.

"This Tea-Party Movement didn't just start up yesterday. It's been building up for 1 1/2 years. December 16. 2007 Ron Paul supporters had the 1st Tea party in Austin, TX. This is a Libertarian movement that had a small republican following. Of course, the mainstream republicans are jumping on the bandwagon now and claiming credit. LOL!! Unfortunately for them we know there are just as responsible as the democrats for this mess!!!!!!!"

Actually, they're more responsible.

Again, I hate to confuse ya with the facts, little fella, but not only was Barack Obama not President 18 months ago, but the Dems had only recently regained control of the Congress and Bush, like doogie, was vetoing everything in sight after not vetoing a damned thing for the first six years of his reign of error when he had a cluelessly-corrupt, gop rubber-stamp Congress.

Besides, what party controls the State House and the Governor's Mansion in Texas? Who was the incompetent schmuck that was governor before Perry?

Ya got bupkis, Mike. You dittoheads always do.

-- Posted by Michael Enright on Fri, Apr 17, 2009, 3:49 pm EST
-- Posted by None None on Fri, Apr 17, 2009, 8:29 pm EST

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Is a lot of anger being really misplaced or are Obama supporters now being asked to equate the 3% rise in taxes on those making $250K and up, with the widespread torture, murder and mutilation that was wrecked onto the colonial populace by the British at the time of the Boston Tea Party? The British killed millions upon millions of people, tortured thousands upon thousands, and left many of those mutilated for life... The colonials at the time, sick of being treated this way, and wanting a representational government, decided that a peaceful but powerful demonstration of their anger and frustration was warranted. Not that I don't think that everyone doesn't have the right to protest, but what exactly has this administration done, similar to the British, to warrant these protests? A reminder to the protesters- just because your government isn't doing what you want, doesn't mean you're not represented. Protesting like this 2 and a half months into an administration that came into office having to clean up the biggest financial mess in 80 years, is a lot like crying wolf. Those opposed to Obama may not like how he's been forced into cleaning up Bush's mess, but if you make this much noise now over a necessary hardship, why would we listen later when there might actually be something worthwhile to protest? Do you worry about your credibility?
-- Posted by Bennett Shapiro on Fri, Apr 17, 2009, 4:49 pm EST

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The fact of the matter both parties are to blame for this. In Bushs 8 years he grew the national deficit by 3 times!!! Obama is doubling what Bush did in one year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No matter what our tax situation is now, our future is being mortgaged for the here and now. Our standard of living is going to decrease at an alarming rate in the coming years (It has now for 30 years: Remember the time when one parent had to work and you could still afford a house, car and quality life, now 2 parents have to work multiple jobs in many cases to keep the same standard of living). In 2010, the baby-boom generation will be at retirement age and we will have more retired people supported by government then ever before. There will many more Tea-Parties in the coming years and many of you who disagree will soon be going the movement.

This Tea-Party Movement didn't just start up yesterday. It's been building up for 1 1/2 years. December 16. 2007 Ron Paul supporters had the 1st Tea party in Austin, TX. This is a Libertarian movement that had a small republican following. Of course, the mainstream republicans are jumping on the bandwagon now and claiming credit. LOL!! Unfortunately for them we know there are just as responsible as the democrats for this mess!!!!!!!
-- Posted by Michael Enright on Fri, Apr 17, 2009, 3:49 pm EST

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"Hey None None, let me paraphrase for you. WAH, IT'S ALL BUSHES FAULT. WAH. I think I have that about right. Can you just admit that Dems are at just as much fault, if not more, than Repubs? God help us with what Obama has done. So much for controlling spending."

Nice try, monty, but unless you can point to a specific action or actions taken by the Dems in the two years they controlled Congress that Bush did't or couldn't veto, it's Bush's fault.

Can ya do that, little factually-challenged fella? That's what I thought.

Shrub started with a record budget surplus left to him by Clinton, a world at peace and two large buildings dominating the lower Manhattan skyline and by the time he and the cluelessly-corrupt gop congress were done, none of those things were true.

Ya got nothing, little fella. You dimwitted dittoheads always do.
-- Posted by None None on Fri, Apr 17, 2009, 1:31 pm EST

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Hey None None, let me paraphrase for you. WAH, IT'S ALL BUSHES FAULT. WAH. I think I have that about right. Can you just admit that Dems are at just as much fault, if not more, than Repubs? God help us with what Obama has done. So much for controlling spending.
-- Posted by Monty Fox on Fri, Apr 17, 2009, 12:54 pm EST

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So much clueless con crapolla, so little time.

"Leftist ignorance on display through and through. When logic fails you call names and blame Bush."

Gee, I hate to confuse ya with the facts, jimbo, but given the fundamental, inescapable reality that it happened on his watch and it's his fault, it would be illogical not to blame bush for screwing this pooch.

Of course, he had help from the doogie debacle and it's dimwitted, dittohead supporters.

"Well the facts are that it was a Dem congress and Dem programs that got us into this mess."

Really? Seeing how gops controlled Congress for the last six years of Clinton's term in the WH along with the first six years of Bush's incompetent reign of error, just what did the Dem's pass during the period from 1/07 - 1/09 that Bush couldn't or didn't veto, little factually-challenged fella?

You simply don't have a case, a clue or a reason and don't know what the hell you're talking about.

"It is disgusting how quickly you come to defend the policies of the most corrupt politicians in our history."

Again, I hate to keep confusing you with the facts, little fella, but the only one defending the Bush Administration is the lunatic-fringe likes of you.

Get yourself a case and clue, little fella.
-- Posted by None None on Fri, Apr 17, 2009, 10:40 am EST

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It should have been called a WhineParty. What a bunch of Whiners. Don't these people have jobs? How do you support your family if your complaining all the time? I am a rather lower paid employee. I pay taxes through weekly deductions from my paycheck like everyone else. I am a proud tax payer and I am proud of this nation and all we do for those less fortunate. I am not proud of how the last administration ruined our economy with its lack of watchdogs on its buddies in the Financial Industry. Millions of people are losing their jobs because the so called Captains of Industry sold us out. Where are they when the going gets tough, asking for a bail out. Why aren't they standing on the State house lawn asking for lower taxes? Because they don't pay taxes and its our taxes bailing them out.
-- Posted by Anthony Royer on Fri, Apr 17, 2009, 8:07 am EST

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It's too bad the VSEA can't organize a rally this big.
-- Posted by Alex P Keaton on Fri, Apr 17, 2009, 7:54 am EST

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Leftist ignorance on display through and through. When logic fails you call names and blame Bush. Well the facts are that it was a Dem congress and Dem programs that got us into this mess. And it is the Dem mentality that thinks spending money is the way to get out of debt. It is disgusting how quickly you come to defend the policies of the most corrupt politicians in our history. It is repugnant how far you will go to still support the Teleprompter president and his kings-kissing arrogantly ignorant ways. Maybe you can get some region 2 DVD's and an additional i-pod for your servitude. The sooner we cut taxes and eliminate government programs the sooner we begin to save ourselves.
-- Posted by James Hill on Fri, Apr 17, 2009, 6:41 am EST

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Article 16 -- tonight we find out that the Bush administration tried to do a warrantless wiretap on a member of Congress, one of the more benign examples of Bush's power grab. These tea party supporters and conservative Republicans who now accuse Obama of FASCISM and talk about seceding from the union had no problem with the Bush administration when it stopped just short of a dictatorship. Can't we simply acknowledge the truth? The Republicans LOST in 2006 and 2008. Rather than wait until the next election, which is the loser's remedy, they've started trying to foment a revolution, but their rationale for this supposed revolution causes them to engage in the most obvious hypocrisy imaginable, forcing them to deny their previous statements and views.
-- Posted by 1st Republic 14th Star on Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 10:51 pm EST

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I was there!
-- Posted by General Robert Lee on Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 8:43 pm EST

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Vermont would rather report on the people that want to pay more taxes...Well those idiots can pay my taxes too...I have had enough!
-- Posted by Max Baker on Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 8:15 pm EST

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1st Republic 14th Star you disgrace that sign in name... Seems the farther north you go the more tree hugging, same sex marriage liberals dot the landscape.... I will be interested to see what you all think when you are standing in food lines because your big government has you by the short hairs... How many of you clowns are Native Vermonters? Not many I would presume by these socialist comments....
-- Posted by Article 16 on Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 7:47 pm EST

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Yeah, the same coalition of the clueless cretins who are every bit the "independent thinkers" the term dittoheads would imply.
-- Posted by None None on Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 7:10 pm EST

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Are these the same people that listen to Rush Limbaugh?
-- Posted by John Lamson on Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 6:27 pm EST

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Ya had a load of clueless take back Vermont trash ginned up by a fixed news nitwits and talk radio rubbish protesting the taxes levied on them by the doogie debacle and the corruptly-clueless bush administration while blaming Obama for shrub's incompetence and protesting government waste by wasting tea purchased for that purpose.

Clearly, irony is lost on the ignorant.
-- Posted by None None on Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 5:00 pm EST

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Eight years of financial mismanagement, corruption, partisanship, election stealing and war profiteering from the Bush administration and its supporters, and notr a word from these people. 10 weeks into an Obama administration that's rolling back the Bush excesses, and all of a sudden they're worried, but they can't make up their minds whether Obama is a fascist or a socialist? Pardon me if I don't take them seriously.

And why is the VPB not printing the TRUTH about these "protests"? They're paid for and organized by rich Republicans and their advocacy and lobbying groups, ands pimped by Fox News, which is clearly advocating, not reporting.

These BS "protests" are the textbook Internet definition of "astroturf" and no responsible news organization should give them any credibility.
-- Posted by 1st Republic 14th Star on Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 4:57 pm EST

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I was downtown all day. There were about 250 at the peak.

They were definitely mad as hell and playing the victim role. All noise, no solutions, of course. The contradictions were hilarious. "Non-partisan" but totally anti-democrat. Like the last 8 years have been the model of fiscal responsibility. I give some credit to the true libertarians for consistency at least. But the republican element there was totally hypocritical at best.

Congrats to the organizer. You're how old and you just "woke up?" Way to be on the ball there. Model citizen for sure. You've been paying attention to the issues for a year and you're ready to lead the great uninformed masses to revolt. Rabble rabble rabble. All rabble, no solutions.

And of course, I was really, Really, REALLY amused by the big teabag hanging over the speakers' heads. If you don't get why thats funny, maybe ask someone under 30 or so. I cant believe with all the demonstrations across the country, no one pointed that out.
-- Posted by Ted Hopper on Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 12:43 pm EST

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I stopped by at lunchtime, and I'd estimate the crowd at 300. Certainly not 500, but a decent turnout nonetheless. The crowd didn't show anywhere near the vigor of the good ol' "Take Back Vermont" days.
-- Posted by Hoof Pick on Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 12:42 pm EST

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500 participants? I saw a wide-angle shot last night on the WGOP news and it looked more like 50 participants. Not much interest in this stuff. Tea bags? Ha!
-- Posted by Jest Askin on Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 11:13 am EST

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Wow, I can't believe the Times Error actually put this story in the paper! Such a contradiction for this leftist rag. Go Tea Party participants!!!
-- Posted by Emile Lacasse on Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 8:11 am EST

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